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		<title>By: melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the write-up.

I came prepared for that and have witnessed and learned a great deal about political systems, beliefs and steadfastness this election year. I was not shaken or afraid and I feel what that gentleman said was out of ignorance and fear. I actually feel sorry for people who either refuse to hear the truth or refuse to see it -- or acknowledge that fear as a form of political bigotry. 

I can sympathize with the pie-thrower in that wanting to shake people out of the matrix -- but because of the setting of the pie event (an Earlham College event), I can see how it could have been construed as hostility (Kristol was a minority in political alignment, for example). I was working at the Palladium-Item at the time, and the whole fiasco was regarded as a big joke among the staff -- so perhaps throwing the pie didn&#039;t do much good outside the Earlham bubble. 

Of course, pointing fingers and yelling at me obviously doesn&#039;t do much good either.

So what would be a more effective way for these people to communicate their frustrations? And how can a host facilitate and ease dissent in the audience? 


But yeah, dang. Next time I&#039;ll ask for more moolah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the write-up.</p>
<p>I came prepared for that and have witnessed and learned a great deal about political systems, beliefs and steadfastness this election year. I was not shaken or afraid and I feel what that gentleman said was out of ignorance and fear. I actually feel sorry for people who either refuse to hear the truth or refuse to see it &#8212; or acknowledge that fear as a form of political bigotry. </p>
<p>I can sympathize with the pie-thrower in that wanting to shake people out of the matrix &#8212; but because of the setting of the pie event (an Earlham College event), I can see how it could have been construed as hostility (Kristol was a minority in political alignment, for example). I was working at the Palladium-Item at the time, and the whole fiasco was regarded as a big joke among the staff &#8212; so perhaps throwing the pie didn&#8217;t do much good outside the Earlham bubble. </p>
<p>Of course, pointing fingers and yelling at me obviously doesn&#8217;t do much good either.</p>
<p>So what would be a more effective way for these people to communicate their frustrations? And how can a host facilitate and ease dissent in the audience? </p>
<p>But yeah, dang. Next time I&#8217;ll ask for more moolah.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good questions you are pondering.  
I think another difference between the two settings is that Peace Forum is a more intimate setting than the public event where Kristol spoke.  Presumably those attending Peace Forum would comprise a more homogeneous group than those attending a public event (even though Peace Forum is considered public, I&#039;m sure).  And although the pie-r was someone very committed to nonviolent change, and still chose what was definitely a provocative act, it seems like Peace Forum attendees could be presumed to be persons with a commitment to congenial conversation and discussion.  
Maybe I have a bias because I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004, but it seems like &quot;fighting&quot; over what happened in 2000 is a sure sign that the Enemy is winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions you are pondering.<br />
I think another difference between the two settings is that Peace Forum is a more intimate setting than the public event where Kristol spoke.  Presumably those attending Peace Forum would comprise a more homogeneous group than those attending a public event (even though Peace Forum is considered public, I&#8217;m sure).  And although the pie-r was someone very committed to nonviolent change, and still chose what was definitely a provocative act, it seems like Peace Forum attendees could be presumed to be persons with a commitment to congenial conversation and discussion.<br />
Maybe I have a bias because I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004, but it seems like &#8220;fighting&#8221; over what happened in 2000 is a sure sign that the Enemy is winning.</p>
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